I kind of know how to use the software, at least I know how to do all he does in the video. But I don't know how he makes the shadowing, the painting etc.. It still boils down to drawing / painting skill.
Is there any specific reason people use blue pencil for images that are going to be scanned?
The blue pencil issue started when we used to copy images and the blue acted like a blue screen- it did NOT copy where the black/gray lines did! FROM THE WEB: "Some artists, knowing that blue pencil "will not show", tend to be more uninhibited and loose when roughing it out. thus more creative. the objective/analytic part of the psyche is held at bay: "it's ok to make a mistake, it won't show."
Once they hold a pencil-- ding! it's clean up time, and the mindset is geared more towards the "technical" aspect of drawing-- good strokes, proportion, modelling, cleanliness, etc."
AND.... "Back when Disney had a 2D animation department, the rough animation was done in red. This allowed the cleanup artists to hold a red gel over the drawing and see just the cleanup line they were working on, and then compare it to the rough by removing the gel. When the finished drawing was scanned into CAPS, they'd filter out the red and be left with just the graphite cleanup line.
Since it never showed up in the scans, there was some wacky stuff added to those roughs in red pencil, lemme tell you."
AND ME again,
Then it is about getting the basic skills to a more refined level...and that is just practice. I know you have the basic "hand/eye coordination" and "movements" necessary or you couldn't make those portraits you made! What you are seeking, I believe, is the ability to consistently use them in subtle and specific ways. This artist is working in LAYERS and LAYERS and they are mostly reversible. If you want, you can try to replicate the METHOD of what you are seeing here for your final, but obviously do it with your imagery. BUILD the base this week and show me in class.(although it looks like we are going to galleries this week?) The base is the drawing and some color/value relationships...starting the basic textural issues wouldn't hurt either.
ONE HUGE THING.....if you notice when he is working on the leg...there is a GESTURAL outline first, and then he sculpts it, shapes it and gives it form and texture. This takes time!!!! You could do these things on paper until you are comfortable and then switch it up to photoshop. That would be easier for me to work on WITH you. Let's make two dates to do this....we have one for this weds at 3pm- that's a start.
Wow, that's reasonable. Just switching the red channel off would be a lot less painful than cleaning by hand.
Yeah, it'd be fun trying to do that. I was thinking of using just lines and watercolor, but that might be a beneficial detour. Yeah, I probably won't be able to show you in this week's class as we'll be out but I'll post it as an experimentation here, so we won't be constrained by time. I'll try to fit this my work's context, but I don't really care, this looks interesting on its own.
Burak, you have all the tough stuff down, but you need to practice the software, that's all......be well, Tom
ReplyDeleteOMG! That's awesome. Did u notice he does everything with brushes, burn and dodge? Great!
ReplyDeleteI kind of know how to use the software, at least I know how to do all he does in the video. But I don't know how he makes the shadowing, the painting etc.. It still boils down to drawing / painting skill.
ReplyDeleteIs there any specific reason people use blue pencil for images that are going to be scanned?
The blue pencil issue started when we used to copy images and the blue acted like a blue screen- it did NOT copy where the black/gray lines did!
ReplyDeleteFROM THE WEB:
"Some artists, knowing that blue pencil "will not show", tend to be more uninhibited and loose when roughing it out. thus more creative. the objective/analytic part of the psyche is held at bay: "it's ok to make a mistake, it won't show."
Once they hold a pencil-- ding! it's clean up time, and the mindset is geared more towards the "technical" aspect of drawing-- good strokes, proportion, modelling, cleanliness, etc."
AND....
"Back when Disney had a 2D animation department, the rough animation was done in red. This allowed the cleanup artists to hold a red gel over the drawing and see just the cleanup line they were working on, and then compare it to the rough by removing the gel. When the finished drawing was scanned into CAPS, they'd filter out the red and be left with just the graphite cleanup line.
Since it never showed up in the scans, there was some wacky stuff added to those roughs in red pencil, lemme tell you."
AND ME again,
Then it is about getting the basic skills to a more refined level...and that is just practice. I know you have the basic "hand/eye coordination" and "movements" necessary or you couldn't make those portraits you made!
What you are seeking, I believe, is the ability to consistently use them in subtle and specific ways. This artist is working in LAYERS and LAYERS and they are mostly reversible.
If you want, you can try to replicate the METHOD of what you are seeing here for your final, but obviously do it with your imagery.
BUILD the base this week and show me in class.(although it looks like we are going to galleries this week?) The base is the drawing and some color/value relationships...starting the basic textural issues wouldn't hurt either.
ONE HUGE THING.....if you notice when he is working on the leg...there is a GESTURAL outline first, and then he sculpts it, shapes it and gives it form and texture. This takes time!!!! You could do these things on paper until you are comfortable and then switch it up to photoshop. That would be easier for me to work on WITH you. Let's make two dates to do this....we have one for this weds at 3pm- that's a start.
Be well Tom
Wow, that's reasonable. Just switching the red channel off would be a lot less painful than cleaning by hand.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it'd be fun trying to do that. I was thinking of using just lines and watercolor, but that might be a beneficial detour. Yeah, I probably won't be able to show you in this week's class as we'll be out but I'll post it as an experimentation here, so we won't be constrained by time. I'll try to fit this my work's context, but I don't really care, this looks interesting on its own.